New Rules, and a Link to Gay Marriage
Though I appreciate the flood of evicende this site has accumulated, I'm not going to allow anonymous posts. If you're going to say something, you need to stick around to defend yourself or provide rebuttals or retractions, and so you may as well have some contact info.
(Read: Derek, send me your e-mail, and I'll put you up as a contributor.)
My thoughts on gay marriage here, as well as responses to some of Derek's points.
In other news, I just wasted three hours typing up a diatribe against Moore that was eaten by this computer.
(insert cursing)
The diatribe will come. Later. For now, only a few questions:
MG - Show me that O'Reilly, Hannity, et. al., are liars (shouldn't be too hard, I imagine). And take a quick look at the sidebar, where we've provided a list of known idiots who are not to be trusted (will be updated as circumstances permit). If you've got a suggestion, show him/her to be a dumbass, and he/she will be added, provided no good defenses appear.
And one more for MG -
"I can't argue with this sort of person anymore. It's literally offensive."
Offensive or not, you need to respond to at least one thing:
So we took 65k+ prisoners, and 108 of them died, including deaths by natural causes. Count me as not shocked that 108 of 65k+ people died. Take a random sample of 65,000 Americans, and I'll be you'll find that a year later more than 108 of them have naturally died.
That doesn't discount deaths by torture. But the number appears to be overblown, which means it's deceptive at best. Please respond.
And James:
Need response on Michael Smith's definition of "fixed," which appears to refute yours.
(And go Spurs.)
(Read: Derek, send me your e-mail, and I'll put you up as a contributor.)
My thoughts on gay marriage here, as well as responses to some of Derek's points.
In other news, I just wasted three hours typing up a diatribe against Moore that was eaten by this computer.
(insert cursing)
The diatribe will come. Later. For now, only a few questions:
MG - Show me that O'Reilly, Hannity, et. al., are liars (shouldn't be too hard, I imagine). And take a quick look at the sidebar, where we've provided a list of known idiots who are not to be trusted (will be updated as circumstances permit). If you've got a suggestion, show him/her to be a dumbass, and he/she will be added, provided no good defenses appear.
And one more for MG -
"I can't argue with this sort of person anymore. It's literally offensive."
Offensive or not, you need to respond to at least one thing:
So we took 65k+ prisoners, and 108 of them died, including deaths by natural causes. Count me as not shocked that 108 of 65k+ people died. Take a random sample of 65,000 Americans, and I'll be you'll find that a year later more than 108 of them have naturally died.
That doesn't discount deaths by torture. But the number appears to be overblown, which means it's deceptive at best. Please respond.
And James:
Need response on Michael Smith's definition of "fixed," which appears to refute yours.
(And go Spurs.)
posted by NateWazoo at 1:23 PM
2 Comments:
Listen - all that is irrelevant. We have plenty of evidence, whether it's "unreliable" Amnesty International (whose reports Bush used to bolster his case for invading Iraq), or whether it's through FBI reports or White House memos declaring that we are exempt from torture rules. The evidence is there. We're torturing people. If you refuse to accept it, you're a denier of facts. And if you support it, you're opposed to the principles that this country was supposed to represent. Principles like human rights and dignity.
The specific numbers of who died where and the conjecture of Dr. James and his statistics about how many people die in prison just don't matter.
Hardly irrelevant. If you're going to make such a claim, you need to be devastatingly accurate. Counting on the opposition to see your reports in the best light isn't a wise course of action (i.e., Dick Durbin).
Hit first, hit fast, hit hard. Otherwise people can pick you apart, even if your first assertion still stands.
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